(Post edited: I put my replies in the body of the post, at the end. They seem to fit better there. I included, in my replies, two comments from two people who live in the Sandy Hook area and know the family members. I will bold their comments in case you just want to skim my words and read only theirs. The comments/replies are in the order in which I originally posted them.)
Okay, now that I've got your attention, let me explain a few things.
I've had it “up to here” with this
garbage that the parents of the slain children are not really sad
that their children are dead, or the persistent belief that the
children are really alive. All is a cover-up. All is a conspiracy.
All they want to do is take away our guns and rifles, so they staged
the whole thing. Either the children are alive or the parents were in
on the killings. Excuse me while I stop to puke. Such things turn my
stomach.
Hey, we've even got proof! according to
a YouTube video (or two) that shows a picture of two blond girls, one
brunette girl, and one brunette boy with President Obama.
You see, they claim that those three
girls are Robbie Parker's girls, and that the conspiracy made a huge
mistake letting Emilie come out after they had just taken a family
picture with her in the same dress (she didn't change her clothes
like the others, you see).
A few points here:
1 - All of the little girls in the
family photo have hair so blond, it almost borders on white.
2 - The family photo was taken long
before this tragedy (an internet acquaintance who knows the family
stated this in one of the insane threads inhabiting forums nowadays).
3 - Little girls grow.
4 - The odds of the baby of the family
suddenly sprouting brown hair (no matter how light) in the year since
the photo was taken is extremely low, especially in light of the fact
that her older sisters' hair is still extremely blond in the family
photo.
5 - Children wear hand-me-downs.
6 - The little girl in the Obama photo
who appears to be wearing Emilie's dress (or a look-alike dress) has
a totally different smile than Emilie does.
7 - Some people just cannot tell
siblings apart. People were always mixing up my two brothers. People
were always mixing up my two daughters. Heck, people were even mixing
up my best friend and me, when I was a teenager. To me, none of the 6
of us looked alike. Point: If you want to be a sleuth, grab some
discernment skills, first.
8 - The younger blond girl (leaning on
Obama's leg) has a round face, as does the youngest daughter in the
family photo. Get a life, people!
9 - If the brunette girl belongs to
Robbie Parker, how did he magically get an older boy? Why the blind
assumption that all of the children with Obama belong to the Parker
couple?
Families are not mourning properly
First of all, is it really your
business how someone else deals with death?
So,
any smiling or laughing after someone dies is a punishable crime now?
Let
me disabuse you who are being sucked into this garbage.
Stages
of grief. Go find a list. You'll find something like shock. Denial.
Perhaps
all of you are perfectly “Godlike” in your ability to cry and
weep and wail constantly after someone has died. Perhaps you are able
to constantly think of your little one being terrified and in great
agony as s/he dies in a massacre. Not
one second of distraction. Not one nano-second of other thoughts.
How
about I enlighten you to a little bit of reality?
When
someone dies, for many of us, it is surreal. We keep expecting that
person to be there, to walk through the door, to come home from
school. We cannot wrap our minds around something so huge as “does
not exist now.” In that frame of mind, which I believe is a
protection God put there to keep us sane, it is easy to smile and
laugh if occasion warrants it.
Next,
some people are naturally stoic. That couple who were smiling in the
interview could very well be that kind of people.
How
about this kicker in our totally hypocritical Godless society that
often gives lip-service
to Deity, but rarely one's heart?
God
lives! He comforts His children! When spirits depart this world, they
often try to comfort those left behind. I know that my mother did
this for me. Between God, the Holy Spirit, prayer, and the person who
died, I think it is perfectly natural for someone to know their child
is still alive in the ultimate sense. I think it is perfectly natural
for families to be comforted in times of trial. (Oh,
and some people are uncomfortable crying for a news camera.)
I
mean, you DO believe in the existence of the Holy Ghost don't you?
The Holy Spirit? The Comforter? Did that member of the Godhead
suddenly and magically lose the power and ability to comfort simply
because YOU are offended and shocked by the power and ability to
comfort
He has put into certain families' lives (and faces).
Oh,
by the way, some of us joke and laugh even when bad things happen. It
releases stress. I know I'm not the only one who does this. Also,
dwelling on a loved one's death 24/7 is guaranteed to cause insanity,
to a lesser or greater degree depending on how they died and what one
keeps telling one's self about the death.
Another
thing I noticed:
The
man who blubbered and bawled was an actor because no one could see
his tears on
camera (you know, no special close-ups like in the movies).
The woman
being interviewed who nearly lost it (the
person doing the interview reached out her hand to cover the woman's
hand)
was an actress, but I forget why. The parents who don't cry for the
camera. The people who do cry. All of them are actors. [This is sarcasm, in case it went over anyone's head.]
Is
anyone seeing a pattern here? If not, does the phrase, “Damned if
you do, and damned if you don't” help a little?
And
a word of warning to those getting sucked into this:
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye
shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.
(New Testament | Matthew 7:2)
----------------
24 And he said unto them, Take heed
what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you:
and unto you that hear shall more be given.
(New Testament | Mark 4:24)
----------------
38 Give, and it shall be given unto
you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running
over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that
ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
(New Testament | Luke 6:38)
----------------
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye
shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured
to you again.
(Book of Mormon | 3 Nephi 14:2)
Do you REALLY want someone treating you
like this when all hell breaks loose in your
area and your loved ones are dead?
I
am disgusted. I am most disgusted because I began to get sucked into
this, until I really looked at those two pictures of Robbie Parker's
daughters.
We
are like vultures, waiting to tear into someone, waiting to tear them
apart. Whatever happened to following Christ? Whatever happened to
the pure love of Christ. Surely, pure
love
would not attack families who mourn because they don't follow some
script they don't even know we have for them.
I
pray to God that none of you have to deal with the hatred and
vengeance you are spewing out toward these grieving families and
neighbors. Unfortunately, what goes around comes around; cast your
bread upon the waters and it comes back to you increased. This is a
true natural law. I've seen it. I've experienced it. I pity those of
you who, like the cart rope to sin Isaiah mentioned, refuse to let go
of your harshness and suspicions, who cry, “A conspiracy! A
cover-up!”
Love
is:
Though
I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity,
I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
2
And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all
mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I
could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
3
And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though
I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me
nothing.
4
Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not;
charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
5
Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily
provoked, thinketh no evil;
6
Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;
7
Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth
all things.
8
Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they
shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease;
whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9
For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10
But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part
shall be done away.
11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I
thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish
things.
12
For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I
know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest
of these is charity
(New
Testament | 1 Corinthians 13:1–13)
Though I do all kinds of incredible
things, if I have not charity I am nothing. So, I ask you, are you
showing by your suspicious posts on assorted threads around the
internet that you are “nothing”?
I made a blog post some minutes ago in response to the inanity that is going around AVOW and LDSFF (though, to a lesser degree on LDSFF).
People are so cruel. And these people claim "the light of the gospel" and they are going to go to heaven because they are so holy. But when families and neighborhoods are grieving over the most horrendous massacre, these same people see cruelty incarnate on the internet and jump on the bandwagon to add lye to the wounds of those already wounded.
You'd think it was a crime to smile and laugh just because you're going through hell. And, of course, they have to add to the hell the family and neighbors are going through by calling them actors and liars. One man is even being harassed because of the lies. What was AVOW's response to that? Mocking. Derision. If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't have gotten on the news.
What lack of charity. It is appalling amongst those who view themselves as God's elite. Pharisees, anyone? Sadducees, anyone?
And what will happen when the law fulfills its round? When the bread cast upon the waters returns, and they are in a private hell, and are being mocked and derided, no matter how they respond to it?
These cruel people (whether LDS or not) who are spreading vicious things about the mourners are going to have their own experience, perhaps with Nazi-like guards and guard-dogs. They will be mourning and weeping and wailing, but there will be no one to ease their agonies.
Why can they not see that they are digging a pit for themselves when they act so cruelly? It is so obvious to me. It seems it ought to be obvious to anyone who has lived very long in this world. What goes around comes around. What you send out comes back.
Rant over, at least in this post.
I better distance myself from this. The pain that the accusing people are causing innocent others, and the pain they are guaranteeing themselves in the future is far too much to feel right now.
The above comment is a copy of a post I made to a friend. The "blog post" is referring to the original post above. I thought I had clarified that when I made the comment. Apparently, I did not.
I cannot resist just one more. Another post to said friend. After this, I will leave this thread alone.
Begin quote:
I just changed my profile picture to black and white (I didn't like the yellow tint), and as I looked at it, I noticed something.
This is from a grave site after the funeral of my uncle, who was like a father to me. His death was most unexpected.
Yet, look at my face. That appears to be a smile. And do you see a tear? Do you see any signs of tears?
If you could look at all of the mourners at that time, I expect you would have found quite a few currently dry eyes, and several smiles, and even laughter as people made jokes.
Do you suppose there was a conspiracy amongst us? After all, we are not weeping. We are not wailing.
Oh, wait. I forgot. We are paid actors even if we weep. Damn! Can't win for losing.
Sarcasm off, now.
End quote.
The profile picture was my Google profile picture, not my blog picture. I forgot they were different when I posted the above because they are both Google.
I know I was going to leave this alone - but I went to a thread that I had left in disgust. This thread can be viewed online by people who are not members of the site (public, in other words), so I feel that, in that sense, it is okay to quote it here. (I am splitting it into more paragraphs to make it easier to read online.)
I post this because it defends the Parkers much more poignantly than I ever could:
Hi all, I just wanted to add my 2 cents to the discussion. I live in the Newtown ward. Many of my friends and ward members had kids in the school that day. For the record I know something evil beyond what a young boy named Adam Lanza could have pulled off all alone went down that day. I also know that there are no actors involved (besides Obama), just many grieving families. The Parkers are in my ward. Believe me, there was crying and lots of it.
But Robbie had held a prayer meeting right before the press conference, I was there. He expressed his own amazement that he was able to even get up in front of us and speak to us.
He shared with us that the stake president had spent the last several hours with them in their home and had given him a blessing because he knew he needed to speak to the public and did not know how he was going to manage. Not only was he in terrible emotional trauma but he is also very shy.
What we saw at that press conference was a miracle. In the blessing President Checketts asked for strength and courage and clarity and calm for Robbie, that he could share a message of peace and hope with the world even during the worst time.
I think he did a dang good job and was sickened to hear some of the garbage being said about him and his family.
The pictures of Emilie in question are just normal Family Christmas photos- from LAST YEAR! She and her sister look very much alike and her little sister Madeline was wearing Emilies dress at the presidents visit. Forgive her mama for not shopping for a new dress at that time! For goodness sakes, it's amazing she was even dressed at all and likely because her aunt was there helping.
It's true something stinks in Newtown, my husband and I smelled it as soon as we heard what happened. BUT stick to the facts so we don't lose all credibility! That's why this circus is being encouraged, to spread disinformation so crass and idiotic that no on will ever listen to the real, important, UNANSWERED questions.
So people, do you best to stop the nonsense from spreading whenever you hear it. Just stop hearing it or spreading it and do not tolerate anyone else doing so. Please and thank you! Sue
End quote.
Someone else who lives in the area answered that post, basically seconding what was said, saying, in part:
As for the Parker family, they are a wonderful family that is going through an extraordinary trial right now, and they are certainly proving worthy. ... Please be respectful and sensitive.
End quote.
And, for the record, my beef is with how the mourners are being treated. There are plenty of things that don't add up that have absolutely nothing to do with the family, friends, and neighbors in that community.
The way it was dealt with locally seems like a comedy of errors (except there is/was nothing humorous about any of this). I don't know if that points to "conspiracy" or not, so I don't make a judgment on it. People do some pretty strange things, sometimes, when they are under stress.
I won't go into all of the things that don't add up. That wasn't the purpose of my post. I am not combating the idea that things don't add up in general, but the "magician" (whoever he/they may be) is saying, "Lookie there!" and while we are looking there, weird things are going on in a totally different place.
EDITED SECTION BEGINS HERE:
I made several comments that I am adding to the body of the post, as noted at the beginning. Here
they are below (all 7), in their entirety (unedited) in the order they
appeared. I was still angry. I debated whether to permanently delete them, but I have decided to keep them.
I made a blog post some minutes ago in response to the inanity that is going around AVOW and LDSFF (though, to a lesser degree on LDSFF).
People are so cruel. And these people claim "the light of the gospel" and they are going to go to heaven because they are so holy. But when families and neighborhoods are grieving over the most horrendous massacre, these same people see cruelty incarnate on the internet and jump on the bandwagon to add lye to the wounds of those already wounded.
You'd think it was a crime to smile and laugh just because you're going through hell. And, of course, they have to add to the hell the family and neighbors are going through by calling them actors and liars. One man is even being harassed because of the lies. What was AVOW's response to that? Mocking. Derision. If he couldn't handle it, he shouldn't have gotten on the news.
What lack of charity. It is appalling amongst those who view themselves as God's elite. Pharisees, anyone? Sadducees, anyone?
And what will happen when the law fulfills its round? When the bread cast upon the waters returns, and they are in a private hell, and are being mocked and derided, no matter how they respond to it?
These cruel people (whether LDS or not) who are spreading vicious things about the mourners are going to have their own experience, perhaps with Nazi-like guards and guard-dogs. They will be mourning and weeping and wailing, but there will be no one to ease their agonies.
Why can they not see that they are digging a pit for themselves when they act so cruelly? It is so obvious to me. It seems it ought to be obvious to anyone who has lived very long in this world. What goes around comes around. What you send out comes back.
Rant over, at least in this post.
I better distance myself from this. The pain that the accusing people are causing innocent others, and the pain they are guaranteeing themselves in the future is far too much to feel right now.
The above comment is a copy of a post I made to a friend. The "blog post" is referring to the original post above. I thought I had clarified that when I made the comment. Apparently, I did not.
I cannot resist just one more. Another post to said friend. After this, I will leave this thread alone.
Begin quote:
I just changed my profile picture to black and white (I didn't like the yellow tint), and as I looked at it, I noticed something.
This is from a grave site after the funeral of my uncle, who was like a father to me. His death was most unexpected.
Yet, look at my face. That appears to be a smile. And do you see a tear? Do you see any signs of tears?
If you could look at all of the mourners at that time, I expect you would have found quite a few currently dry eyes, and several smiles, and even laughter as people made jokes.
Do you suppose there was a conspiracy amongst us? After all, we are not weeping. We are not wailing.
Oh, wait. I forgot. We are paid actors even if we weep. Damn! Can't win for losing.
Sarcasm off, now.
End quote.
The profile picture was my Google profile picture, not my blog picture. I forgot they were different when I posted the above because they are both Google.
I know I was going to leave this alone - but I went to a thread that I had left in disgust. This thread can be viewed online by people who are not members of the site (public, in other words), so I feel that, in that sense, it is okay to quote it here. (I am splitting it into more paragraphs to make it easier to read online.)
I post this because it defends the Parkers much more poignantly than I ever could:
Hi all, I just wanted to add my 2 cents to the discussion. I live in the Newtown ward. Many of my friends and ward members had kids in the school that day. For the record I know something evil beyond what a young boy named Adam Lanza could have pulled off all alone went down that day. I also know that there are no actors involved (besides Obama), just many grieving families. The Parkers are in my ward. Believe me, there was crying and lots of it.
But Robbie had held a prayer meeting right before the press conference, I was there. He expressed his own amazement that he was able to even get up in front of us and speak to us.
He shared with us that the stake president had spent the last several hours with them in their home and had given him a blessing because he knew he needed to speak to the public and did not know how he was going to manage. Not only was he in terrible emotional trauma but he is also very shy.
What we saw at that press conference was a miracle. In the blessing President Checketts asked for strength and courage and clarity and calm for Robbie, that he could share a message of peace and hope with the world even during the worst time.
I think he did a dang good job and was sickened to hear some of the garbage being said about him and his family.
The pictures of Emilie in question are just normal Family Christmas photos- from LAST YEAR! She and her sister look very much alike and her little sister Madeline was wearing Emilies dress at the presidents visit. Forgive her mama for not shopping for a new dress at that time! For goodness sakes, it's amazing she was even dressed at all and likely because her aunt was there helping.
It's true something stinks in Newtown, my husband and I smelled it as soon as we heard what happened. BUT stick to the facts so we don't lose all credibility! That's why this circus is being encouraged, to spread disinformation so crass and idiotic that no on will ever listen to the real, important, UNANSWERED questions.
So people, do you best to stop the nonsense from spreading whenever you hear it. Just stop hearing it or spreading it and do not tolerate anyone else doing so. Please and thank you! Sue
End quote.
Someone else who lives in the area answered that post, basically seconding what was said, saying, in part:
As for the Parker family, they are a wonderful family that is going through an extraordinary trial right now, and they are certainly proving worthy. ... Please be respectful and sensitive.
End quote.
And, for the record, my beef is with how the mourners are being treated. There are plenty of things that don't add up that have absolutely nothing to do with the family, friends, and neighbors in that community.
The way it was dealt with locally seems like a comedy of errors (except there is/was nothing humorous about any of this). I don't know if that points to "conspiracy" or not, so I don't make a judgment on it. People do some pretty strange things, sometimes, when they are under stress.
I won't go into all of the things that don't add up. That wasn't the purpose of my post. I am not combating the idea that things don't add up in general, but the "magician" (whoever he/they may be) is saying, "Lookie there!" and while we are looking there, weird things are going on in a totally different place.
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