Why does God ask us to sacrifice all things? Why is it that those who do not or are not willing to sacrifice all things cannot gain the same reward as those who are willing? Does God get something out of this? Does it benefit Him in any way? Or is it helping us let go of the things of the world? Is it helping us to focus on the things of the Spirit? Is it to help us stop fearing that something of ours (life, belongings, family, prestige, power, money, friends) will be stolen or lost?
In my mind it is similar to the post I just wrote. There is a purpose, and that purpose is to benefit God. To teach us. To help us become like our Father in heaven.
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Wednesday, June 5, 2013
When God Asks for the Ultimate Sacrifice
Job. Abraham. Others. God either put into their lives something they greatly feared, or asked them to do something that - I believe - they greatly feared.
One of the parts on the path to God is that He will ask you to do something you do not want. It appears that it is something that is fearful to you. Abraham was going to be offered up as a human sacrifice. It is only natural that he should fear not only having such a thing done to him, but having it done to his beloved son. He had apparently already lost one son when Sarah kicked out the boy and his mother. He may have been fearful of losing his other son. Job plainly says that the thing he greatly feared had come upon him.
A friend and I were talking about Abraham's sacrifice. She pointed out that God wants us to face our fears and overcome them. That is the point of asking us to do the one thing we most don't want to do.
It is not so we can take a stand against God and say, "No. I'm going to be an adult here, and I will not do what you ask." (There is a thought process going around that Abraham lost his exaltation because he obeyed the command to offer up Isaac. Such a notion contradicts scripture.)
Neither is it to feed God's pride, or to show us and Him that we will bend to Him at all costs (though bending to Him at all costs is part of the process).
It is God helping us to over come all fear, all hesitation: Fear of what others will think about us or do to us. Fear of losing everything. Fear that your only son will not only be killed, but will be killed as a sacrifice.
Do we trust God? Do we trust that what He asks us to do is for our own benefit? Truly? Deep inside? Does God love us? Is He selfless in that love? Can He be trusted with all that we are, have, and believe?
It is a process of learning to trust God completely. When He asks for that one thing that we fear most, that one thing that we are most reluctant to put upon the altar, we are learning several things:
God always comes first. Not us. Not our families. Not our religion. Not our money nor our job. Not our reputation.
We learn to overcome all fear. After that experience, we fear nothing.
We learn to be selfless. Those who become eligible to be as God, must be as selfless as He is.
I'm sure there are many other things to be learned from this, however, this is all I have right now. Isn't scripture study incredibly interesting? Isn't there so much to learn and gain from looking deeply into what is there, and asking God to open up to us what we do not know?
One of the parts on the path to God is that He will ask you to do something you do not want. It appears that it is something that is fearful to you. Abraham was going to be offered up as a human sacrifice. It is only natural that he should fear not only having such a thing done to him, but having it done to his beloved son. He had apparently already lost one son when Sarah kicked out the boy and his mother. He may have been fearful of losing his other son. Job plainly says that the thing he greatly feared had come upon him.
A friend and I were talking about Abraham's sacrifice. She pointed out that God wants us to face our fears and overcome them. That is the point of asking us to do the one thing we most don't want to do.
It is not so we can take a stand against God and say, "No. I'm going to be an adult here, and I will not do what you ask." (There is a thought process going around that Abraham lost his exaltation because he obeyed the command to offer up Isaac. Such a notion contradicts scripture.)
Neither is it to feed God's pride, or to show us and Him that we will bend to Him at all costs (though bending to Him at all costs is part of the process).
It is God helping us to over come all fear, all hesitation: Fear of what others will think about us or do to us. Fear of losing everything. Fear that your only son will not only be killed, but will be killed as a sacrifice.
Do we trust God? Do we trust that what He asks us to do is for our own benefit? Truly? Deep inside? Does God love us? Is He selfless in that love? Can He be trusted with all that we are, have, and believe?
It is a process of learning to trust God completely. When He asks for that one thing that we fear most, that one thing that we are most reluctant to put upon the altar, we are learning several things:
God always comes first. Not us. Not our families. Not our religion. Not our money nor our job. Not our reputation.
We learn to overcome all fear. After that experience, we fear nothing.
We learn to be selfless. Those who become eligible to be as God, must be as selfless as He is.
I'm sure there are many other things to be learned from this, however, this is all I have right now. Isn't scripture study incredibly interesting? Isn't there so much to learn and gain from looking deeply into what is there, and asking God to open up to us what we do not know?
Sunday, May 5, 2013
Thoughts on 3 Nephi 20:39-46
I read 3 Nephi 20:39-46 this morning. I had some thoughts on these scriptures. I may be right. I may be wrong.
39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that my people shall know my name; yea, in that day they shall know that I am he that doth speak.
Key word is "know." These people belong to the Lord because they know Him. They have seen and conversed with Him. They have felt His wounds. They know His name.
40 And then shall they say: How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings unto them, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings unto them of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion: Thy God reigneth!
Then, shall these people have tremendous appreciation for the prophets who have seen Jesus and who have pointed the way to Him, those who have spoken with power, viewing their lives and safety as nothing in comparison with following the Lord and doing His bidding. They do not protect any person or organization by minimizing uncomfortable or unpopular truths. They speak plainly, and many people are angered by these men.
41 And then shall a cry go forth: Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch not that which is unclean; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord.
These people desire to literally leave Babylon. The body bears the spirit. These people's spirits have been made holy. There are enough of them to physically leave.
42 For ye shall not go out with haste nor go by flight; for the Lord will go before you, and the God of Israel shall be your rearward.
These people are not leaving because they were kicked out, nor because they were threatened with death if they stayed. They are not going out in haste nor by flight. They are protected by Deity in front and behind. No nasty surprises coming toward them. No secret attacks on their rear.
43 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently; he shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.
Jesus was extolled, exalted, and is very high.
44 As many were astonished at thee—his visage was so marred, more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men—
According to Denver Snuffer's testimony of the atonement, Jesus received literal wounds from the suffering of every person on earth. It is impossible for anyone to be more marred than He, because He took on everyone's marring and healed from it. (See "Come Let Us Adore Him" - I don't recall the page, but it should be easy enough to find.)
45 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him, for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
Jesus' blood sprinkled upon the ground as He sweat great drops of blood. Not sure about the rest. Perhaps it is the Spirit that talks to them and teaches them, not their own experiences with anything of this earth.
46 Verily, verily, I say unto you, all these things shall surely come, even as the Father hath commanded me. Then shall this covenant which the Father hath covenanted with his people be fulfilled; and then shall Jerusalem be inhabited again with my people, and it shall be the land of their inheritance.
The things written above shall surely come. They will happen.
But Jesus had already died and was resurrected. In fact, He was the one speaking. Yes, He was. Was He exalted, extolled, and very high at the time of this visit with the Nephites? I don't know. But I do know that time means nothing to the Gods. Timing does, but time itself doesn't. I've read scriptures that speak of the future as though it had already happened.
In any case, I had these thoughts today as I read, and wanted to share.
39 Verily, verily, I say unto you, that my people shall know my name; yea, in that day they shall know that I am he that doth speak.
Key word is "know." These people belong to the Lord because they know Him. They have seen and conversed with Him. They have felt His wounds. They know His name.
40 And then shall they say: How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings unto them, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings unto them of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion: Thy God reigneth!
Then, shall these people have tremendous appreciation for the prophets who have seen Jesus and who have pointed the way to Him, those who have spoken with power, viewing their lives and safety as nothing in comparison with following the Lord and doing His bidding. They do not protect any person or organization by minimizing uncomfortable or unpopular truths. They speak plainly, and many people are angered by these men.
41 And then shall a cry go forth: Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch not that which is unclean; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord.
These people desire to literally leave Babylon. The body bears the spirit. These people's spirits have been made holy. There are enough of them to physically leave.
42 For ye shall not go out with haste nor go by flight; for the Lord will go before you, and the God of Israel shall be your rearward.
These people are not leaving because they were kicked out, nor because they were threatened with death if they stayed. They are not going out in haste nor by flight. They are protected by Deity in front and behind. No nasty surprises coming toward them. No secret attacks on their rear.
43 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently; he shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.
Jesus was extolled, exalted, and is very high.
44 As many were astonished at thee—his visage was so marred, more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men—
According to Denver Snuffer's testimony of the atonement, Jesus received literal wounds from the suffering of every person on earth. It is impossible for anyone to be more marred than He, because He took on everyone's marring and healed from it. (See "Come Let Us Adore Him" - I don't recall the page, but it should be easy enough to find.)
45 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him, for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.
Jesus' blood sprinkled upon the ground as He sweat great drops of blood. Not sure about the rest. Perhaps it is the Spirit that talks to them and teaches them, not their own experiences with anything of this earth.
46 Verily, verily, I say unto you, all these things shall surely come, even as the Father hath commanded me. Then shall this covenant which the Father hath covenanted with his people be fulfilled; and then shall Jerusalem be inhabited again with my people, and it shall be the land of their inheritance.
The things written above shall surely come. They will happen.
But Jesus had already died and was resurrected. In fact, He was the one speaking. Yes, He was. Was He exalted, extolled, and very high at the time of this visit with the Nephites? I don't know. But I do know that time means nothing to the Gods. Timing does, but time itself doesn't. I've read scriptures that speak of the future as though it had already happened.
In any case, I had these thoughts today as I read, and wanted to share.
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Saturday, January 26, 2013
Sandy Hook, again
Well, I have been looking at my stats lately. Usually, the post with the highest views is one of the ones on Denver Snuffer, and the search terms most people use to find this site are some form of Denver Snuffer mixed with "apostate" or "blog" or some such word.
But Sandy Hook searches and views have left him in the dust.
I admit I was angry when I wrote the post. I made several comments, then consolidated the comments into the post since, as the author, I did not want to hog the comment section. My post may seem a "mass of confusion" because I added my comments into the body of the post. I apologize if that is how it comes across.
If you read the post before it was edited, I would suggest you read the edited version - at least looking for the bold parts, which are not my words but the eloquent words of those who live in the area of the massacre and who know the families involved.
I also want to reiterate what I mentioned in the edited version, which is that I am not denying that something is not right about Sandy Hook. Several things don't add up.
Families and neighbors: Innocent victims.
Town's emergency response: a comedy of errors that was not funny, but I think they were trying to protect the families and neighbors from having nightmares for the rest of their lives.
Other stuff (I won't list them, but they are the things that don't add up): Suspicious. Points to the Lanza boys as being set up, or used in some other way. Not sure what the purpose of this was, unless it was to strike terror into the hearts of the U.S.A. and to cause infighting and contention. If that is the case, they have succeeded marvelously well.
But Sandy Hook searches and views have left him in the dust.
I admit I was angry when I wrote the post. I made several comments, then consolidated the comments into the post since, as the author, I did not want to hog the comment section. My post may seem a "mass of confusion" because I added my comments into the body of the post. I apologize if that is how it comes across.
If you read the post before it was edited, I would suggest you read the edited version - at least looking for the bold parts, which are not my words but the eloquent words of those who live in the area of the massacre and who know the families involved.
I also want to reiterate what I mentioned in the edited version, which is that I am not denying that something is not right about Sandy Hook. Several things don't add up.
Families and neighbors: Innocent victims.
Town's emergency response: a comedy of errors that was not funny, but I think they were trying to protect the families and neighbors from having nightmares for the rest of their lives.
Other stuff (I won't list them, but they are the things that don't add up): Suspicious. Points to the Lanza boys as being set up, or used in some other way. Not sure what the purpose of this was, unless it was to strike terror into the hearts of the U.S.A. and to cause infighting and contention. If that is the case, they have succeeded marvelously well.
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Monday, January 21, 2013
God's Handiwork
This post has three titles:
God's Plan for Us
God's Handiwork
Has God Abandoned Me?
So, I've been having a rough time. We
all have, no doubt. The circumstances I'm in have seemed unbearable
for about a year and a half, now. Recently, my spiritual quests
seemed fruitless. I seemed to be “seeing” and “hearing”
heaven less than I did a couple of years ago, even though my quest
was to follow Joseph Smith Jr.'s admonition to seek the face of
Christ (it is in scripture as well).
I was at an impasse both physically and
spiritually. It seemed worthless to try. The trials of my life were
more than I could bear. Heaven seemed too quiet most of the time
(whereas, in the past, I've had dreams from heaven, been able to tell
the future, and had other gifts of the Spirit).
As a Christmas present, a friend gave
me the recording “The Lost Mode of Prayer” by Gregg Braden which
was very helpful. She also gave me the book, “The Secret” which
was also helpful. But, in spite of trying to implement these things
(basically, living in your mind, as if you had what you want), I
found myself once again discouraged by my spiritual and physical
circumstances.
Last Tuesday morning, I “heard” a
voice in my mind and heart that told me, in essence, “This is
almost over,” meaning my trials. I did not write down the exact
words at the time I heard it, and I regret that - but the words were
that this is almost over, meaning what I have been going through this
time around. I am about to get relief.
That day, I went to a forum that I
frequently go to. I expressed the following sentiment (it is a
private forum, but I am quoting myself, so I hope that does not
bother anyone who might be from there who is reading this):
“I have asked myself this
[referring to me not seeing
angels or
the Lord, outside of dreams] many a time, and cannot find
an answer. I do know that I have had many spiritual experiences,
before I read any of [Denver
Snuffer's] books, but cannot get into the realm of "more
real than real" that visions are said to be. Sometimes I have
faith that it will happen to me; other times, I seriously wonder if
what I have been taught is true - or if, maybe, there is something
inherently wrong with me. But, when I begin to think I must be
hopelessly evil, I remember some of the experiences I've had and am
left to wonder - It isn't something that is easy to see and
understand and have, in my experience.”
I received these scriptures in reply
(I am quoting from my own notes, not from the forum). The references
were not given, but I know the scriptures well enough to know they
came from the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants.
- And ye may know
that the words of the Lord, which have been spoken by the holy
prophets, shall all be fulfilled; and ye need not say that the Lord
delays his coming unto the children of Israel.
And ye need not
imagine in your hearts that the words which have been spoken are
vain, for behold, the Lord will remember his covenant which he hath
made unto his people of the house of Israel.
- And now, verily I
say unto you, and what I say unto one I say unto all, be of good
cheer, little children; for I am in your midst, and I have not
forsaken you;
And inasmuch as you
have humbled yourselves before me, the blessings of the kingdom are
yours.
Gird up your loins
and be watchful and be sober, looking forth for the coming of the Son
of Man, for he cometh in an hour you think not.
Pray always that
you enter not into temptation, that you may abide the day of his
coming, whether in life or in death. Even so. Amen.
-
And the Lord said unto him: Believest thou the words which I shall
speak?
And he answered:
Yea, Lord, I know that thou speakest the truth, for thou art a God of
truth, and canst not lie.
- But he that
believeth these things which I have spoken, him will I visit with the
manifestations of my Spirit, and he shall know and bear record. For
because of my Spirit he shall know that these things are true; for it
persuadeth men to do good.
And whatsoever
thing persuadeth men to do good is of me; for good cometh of none
save it be of me. I am the same that leadeth men to all good; he that
will not believe my words will not believe me—that I am; and he
that will not believe me will not believe the Father who sent me. For
behold, I am the Father, I am the light, and the life, and the truth
of the world.
Come unto me, O ye
Gentiles, and I will show unto you the greater things, the knowledge
which is hid up because of unbelief.
- Therefore, let
your hearts be comforted concerning Zion; for all flesh is in mine
hands; be still and know that I am God.
It
struck me that “in an hour ye think not” applied to the promise
in D&C 93:1
Verily,
thus saith the Lord: It shall come to pass that every soul who
forsaketh his sins and cometh unto me, and calleth on my name, and
obeyeth my voice, and keepeth my commandments, shall see my face and
know that I am;
(Doctrine
and Covenants 93:1)
All of the
scriptures affected me most powerfully. They helped tremendously in
my concerns about receiving angels and the Second Comforter.
But,
yesterday morning, as I was going to pray, it seemed less than
useless. I had forgotten the words of comfort given to me Tuesday
morning. The trials of life were crushing me. God seemed absent.
There was no reason to pray. God was not hearing me. That was pretty
dang obvious. My environmental/physical/earthly problems were still
there (and worse, because a critter that is either a skunk or a
badger has been rattling around in our home, bumping around inside
the heating ducts (the furnace doesn't work, so we don't use it. If
it has holes in it big enough for an animal like that to get in, I'm
glad we aren't using it) and even coming inside bumping around under
my daughter's bed).
It was worse than useless to
pray. It was actually painful to pray. I prayed anyway. (I don't
know how I managed it.) And I decided to fast. So worthless to fast,
and I almost didn't, but I did it anyway.
These scriptures come to mind:
29 And there was also written upon them
a new writing, which was plain to be read, which did give us
understanding concerning the ways of the Lord; and it was written and
changed from time to time, according to the faith and diligence which
we gave unto it. And thus we see that by small means the Lord can
bring about great things.
(Book of Mormon | 1 Nephi 16:29)
----------------
6 Now ye may suppose that this is
foolishness in me; but behold I say unto you, that by small and
simple things are great things brought to pass; and small means
in many instances doth confound the wise.
(Book of Mormon | Alma 37:6)
We will see if anything “great”
comes as a result. Nevertheless, here are the results thus far:
At church, during sacrament meeting,
the talks were nothing out of the ordinary until the last speaker. He
said that when one has a problem, when one is about to succumb (not
succumb to sin, but to the problem) one naturally turns to heaven.
Then the devil steps in with his lies. The speaker seemed to be
directing his words to men, because he was mentioning giving
blessings, and the policy is that only men do that. In any case, his
words hit hard. The devil steps in, but don't let the devil deter
you, he said. “You give that blessing. You say that prayer.”
Those words fit the tremendous and painful struggle I'd had that
morning to even pray.
The man was unpolished in his speaking.
No religious “politician” was he. And the curious thing was that
after he said this, he told us his talk was about time management
(from a general conference talk) and totally went off in a different
direction. I was left to wonder if a humble man hadn't listened to
God telling him what to say at the beginning of his sermon.
Sunday School was about Joseph Smith,
Jr. I almost didn't go because I weary of hearing ad nauseum about
how Joseph obeyed the Word of Wisdom when there was no such thing at
that time. (And the fact that Joseph drank a little wine on occasion,
even not long before he died, is something most of us don't know.)
But I went anyway.
And I got another message. When the
devil accosted Joseph in his prayer, Joseph did not give up. He
“prayed harder”. It was interesting to see two things that
addressed what I had struggled with that morning.
After church, I felt a little more on
an even keel. When I had left for church, my daughter had been in the
process of cleaning the house in order to keep the invading critter
at bay (we had talked about finding out where it had entered the room
she was sleeping in. She had seen it. In fact, after she had awakened
me, and I had accompanied her down the hall, she had seen it again,
peering at her from under the kitchen table. But some minutes later,
we heard it bumping along the heating vents under the trailer again.
We were not sure how it had done that, considering the layout of the
place). I came home to find the living room a lot cleaner and in the
process of being rearranged.
Later that day, I went to the site
where my friend had posted the scriptures for me. After perusing for
a while, I noticed he had posted a link to a video (God's Chisel) in a different
thread, so I clicked on it. I shared the video on the Speak of Christ
blog, but here is the link. I cannot imbed it on blogspot because it
is not a YouTube video, nor is it on my computer.
It is a cute skit about how God is
working in our lives. Just as when I read the scriptures that had
been posted for me, I was in tears as the skit went on. And I am led
to believe that the first angels God sends to us are imperfect fellow
mortals.
Whereas, before, I had thought and felt
that God did not care, that He was uninvolved in the trials and
struggles of my life, I saw through this skit that it was possible
that He was very involved in my life, and is in the process of
making me into something better. I saw that my trials just might have
a purpose, that they might truly be specifically tailored to my
spiritual needs, and that it just might be true that “this is
almost over,” because God is the one in charge.
It makes a difference when one can see
one's pains in light of God's hand, and in light of “this will not
last forever. There is and will be an end to this suffering.”
And I post all of this
in the hopes of helping to relieve the suffering of someone else.
Whether a loved one has been murdered,
whether you have lost your job, whether you have been made a mockery
by your fellow beings, whether you fear for any reason whatsoever,
whether you are hungry or homeless or nearly naked, God is there. God
has not forgotten you. God cares about you. God
is performing a work in your life. I promise you this. In some
way, unfathomable to me, hell in this life can be for our benefit.
Your deceased loved one is safe. S/he
is wrapped in the arms of Jesus. Quite possibly, they have come to
you to communicate that they are okay. Perhaps you have heard this
and, because of this conviction, you are more calm and peaceful than
others can understand is possible.
Your lost job will turn to your
benefit. Your hunger will turn to your benefit. Your lack of clothing
and your homelessness will turn to your benefit. And if anyone was
told by God to help you, but they didn't listen, it will turn back on
them. This may seem harsh, because often the Spirit speaks so
quietly, but I have learned that life is harsh - and the consequences
of sins, even what we deem to be small sins, have hard and painful
consequences. And, sometimes, what we deem as sins are not sins at
all (body piercings, and not wearing a white shirt to church come to
mind, as well as a man wearing a full beard).
It would best serve us to remove the
voices that are not from God, whether they come from music, movies,
games, negative thoughts, other people, or mindless pursuits. It is
vital that we are open to God's voice, that we are used to hearing
it. Then, if we have the ability to comfort those in need of
comfort, to clothe the naked, to house the homeless, to feed the
hungry we will know that God intends for us to do that, and He will
show us who we should help.
If you are mocked, the mockery will
turn onto the heads of those who mock, and they will mourn. This
saddens my heart that anyone would suffer, but it is nonetheless
true. You will be vindicated. If they repent, so much the better, but
you will be vindicated. This, I promise you.
God is in charge of this world, even
though it often does not seem that way. He cares. He loves you. We
cannot always see that. If your stomach grumbles because you're
hungry. If your breakfasts and lunches of the last several days have
consisted of eating dirt (diatomaceous earth is nutritious by the
way. I used the word “dirt” for its shock value - and yes, I have
been there - very recently, in fact) - if you have suffered in ways
that are genuinely painful and/or even dangerous to your mortality,
know that God is there. Always.
God is not dependent upon our
perceptions of His existence. He is not dependent upon our
perceptions of His presence. He is not dependent upon our
understanding of whether He cares or loves us. If you get nothing
else out of this post, please take this with you: God cares.
He loves you. He is working to remove the sins and impurities within
your souls.
The destructions that are escalating
are allowed so that they will bring us to our knees. They are not
caused by the secret combinations, though secret combinations may be
involved as a tool of God.
All of the destructions and pain we see
today, both those caused by nature and caused by people, are there to
wake us up. They are there to call us back to God. We are in great
need of repentance as a country and as a planet. Let us heed the call
to repentance. Let us turn to God with all our hearts and souls, even
if it seems He has abandoned us. I assure you that He has not.
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